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Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
11/20/2020, 4:38 pm
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Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune:
Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune is a 25-year-old "aesthetic"/beauty Youtuber and Influencer. She used to live in Temecula but has since moved to her "forever home" in Japan, where she stayed for one year, and now resides on the East Coast, possibly Rhode Island. While living in Japan, Kenna realized it was not aesthetic enough (they didn't do Fall correctly) and spent a month-long trip traversing around Europe with her ex-friend, where she only posed aesthetic photos of coffee and statues while yelling about ableism. Currently, Kenna is in a Dark Academia/Victorian phase and has a line of (questionable) lipsticks out called The Autumn People Collection.
Kenna is known for her many controversies, her Disney obsession, fake-deep posts, and currently, she claims to have autism with no proof or diagnosis. Kenna also claims to be a writer and hopes to release a book "sometime in 2020." Some of her controversies include: claiming to be a Buddhist while knowing nothing about the religion, stealing other peoples art and claiming as her own (tattoos, merch, etc), claiming to be part of the LGBTQ+ but saying she "didn't know the gays invented the rainbow" while subtly bashing those in the LGBTQ+, claiming to live "paycheck to paycheck" even though she has a trust fund and her family pays for everything, and her latest is autism. The autism part itself isn't so much as scandalous, but Kenna claims to have autism with no diagnosis and apparently has many of the traits, such as sensitive eyes, skin sensitivity, not understanding sarcasm, etc. when there is proof none of these things affected her before. Kenna likes to call anyone "ableist" when they so much as disagree with her, and claims to be "emotionless" (she claims she doesn't miss her family because she has no emotions to show she misses anyone) yet complains that the media portrays people with autism as "emotionless robots."
Kenna currently lives on the East Coast in a new studio apartment where she is decorating in the Victorian style, which she claims to have always been interested in. She has no intentions of stopping her extreme photoshopping anytime soon.
Social Media:
IG: Cozykitsune
YouTube: Cozykitsune
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Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune:
Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune is a 25-year-old "aesthetic"/beauty Youtuber and Influencer. She used to live in Temecula but has since moved to her "forever home" in Japan, where she stayed for one year, and now resides on the East Coast, possibly Rhode Island. While living in Japan, Kenna realized it was not aesthetic enough (they didn't do Fall correctly) and spent a month-long trip traversing around Europe with her ex-friend, where she only posed aesthetic photos of coffee and statues while yelling about ableism. Currently, Kenna is in a Dark Academia/Victorian phase and has a line of (questionable) lipsticks out called The Autumn People Collection.
Kenna is known for her many controversies, her Disney obsession, fake-deep posts, and currently, she claims to have autism with no proof or diagnosis. Kenna also claims to be a writer and hopes to release a book "sometime in 2020." Some of her controversies include: claiming to be a Buddhist while knowing nothing about the religion, stealing other peoples art and claiming as her own (tattoos, merch, etc), claiming to be part of the LGBTQ+ but saying she "didn't know the gays invented the rainbow" while subtly bashing those in the LGBTQ+, claiming to live "paycheck to paycheck" even though she has a trust fund and her family pays for everything, and her latest is autism. The autism part itself isn't so much as scandalous, but Kenna claims to have autism with no diagnosis and apparently has many of the traits, such as sensitive eyes, skin sensitivity, not understanding sarcasm, etc. when there is proof none of these things affected her before. Kenna likes to call anyone "ableist" when they so much as disagree with her, and claims to be "emotionless" (she claims she doesn't miss her family because she has no emotions to show she misses anyone) yet complains that the media portrays people with autism as "emotionless robots."
Kenna currently lives on the East Coast in a new studio apartment where she is decorating in the Victorian style, which she claims to have always been interested in. She has no intentions of stopping her extreme photoshopping anytime soon.
Social Media:
IG: Cozykitsune
YouTube: Cozykitsune
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/4/2020, 3:26 pm
foxtail wrote:BunnyIRL wrote:Ugh cant get over this photoshopped sailboat
As a former Graphic Design student, I can confirm that is indeed photoshopped. lol
I don't think you even need to be a Graphic Design student to see that it's photoshopped lol
The sailboat is way too clear compared to the rest of the image, it's a pretty glaring issue that could've been fixed by just blurring it out a little more and also having some waves ACTUALLY touching the sides of the boat.
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/5/2020, 12:33 am
@prettysavage Sheesh my bad well I meant that I really agreed with @foxtail on those examples they listed bout NS tendencies/behaviors as they all clearly align up with how Kenna is online but I see how misspoke differently than what I meant.
Kenna COULD likely be a NS obviously it’s all based on speculation since we know she ain’t ever gonna get a proper diagnoses for herself and this is not Kenna’s family meeting I never armchair diagnosed her I was just going off what was being compared so relax I didn’t mean any harm.
Also many many commenters before that were non-therapists on PULL kept diagnosing Kenna with NPD or some type of disassociation a lot too there were hundreds of pages about her mental health/disability and there was a separate thread for her autism diagnosis for ppl to debate and debunk and counter argue her claims.
She may very well of course not be a complete sociopath (that word to me is thrown around a lot when someone else constantly disregards other people feelings or thoughts or acts of kindness) since that does require a lot of one on one professional examination to diagnose but it doesn’t take much to figure out in my opinion and many other prob agree that’ she is considerably narcissistic and has a highly-inflated self-importance. But that’s enough speculating and labeling.
AS for the effort in her content I remember Kenna saying on her story a month ago I think after she posted her dark academia movie list on YT that if her fans don’t give her the views and engagement she expects that she won’t be able to keep posting the videos she does with the quality of production she puts in them LMFAO *** if that helps anyone wondering why her content quality is vague and bland I think she’s actually gonna stop uploading altogether sometime soon if she’s never get close to 100k views again probably.
You would think with a normal content creator they’d try to figure out on their own how to get the views and engagement on their channel or what else they could to strive for whatever they want to do, not trying to shift it on all the fans wtf. Like I haven’t even finished all the way through any of her videos she has uploaded since her ATLA lookbook because they don’t captivate me at all to sit through her staged and awkward self when she used to speak so confidently in the camera when she was doing her boho diys and coffee with Kenna or whatever Q&A’s. Will we ever get any authenticity from this girl again? I fear not
Kenna COULD likely be a NS obviously it’s all based on speculation since we know she ain’t ever gonna get a proper diagnoses for herself and this is not Kenna’s family meeting I never armchair diagnosed her I was just going off what was being compared so relax I didn’t mean any harm.
Also many many commenters before that were non-therapists on PULL kept diagnosing Kenna with NPD or some type of disassociation a lot too there were hundreds of pages about her mental health/disability and there was a separate thread for her autism diagnosis for ppl to debate and debunk and counter argue her claims.
She may very well of course not be a complete sociopath (that word to me is thrown around a lot when someone else constantly disregards other people feelings or thoughts or acts of kindness) since that does require a lot of one on one professional examination to diagnose but it doesn’t take much to figure out in my opinion and many other prob agree that’ she is considerably narcissistic and has a highly-inflated self-importance. But that’s enough speculating and labeling.
AS for the effort in her content I remember Kenna saying on her story a month ago I think after she posted her dark academia movie list on YT that if her fans don’t give her the views and engagement she expects that she won’t be able to keep posting the videos she does with the quality of production she puts in them LMFAO *** if that helps anyone wondering why her content quality is vague and bland I think she’s actually gonna stop uploading altogether sometime soon if she’s never get close to 100k views again probably.
You would think with a normal content creator they’d try to figure out on their own how to get the views and engagement on their channel or what else they could to strive for whatever they want to do, not trying to shift it on all the fans wtf. Like I haven’t even finished all the way through any of her videos she has uploaded since her ATLA lookbook because they don’t captivate me at all to sit through her staged and awkward self when she used to speak so confidently in the camera when she was doing her boho diys and coffee with Kenna or whatever Q&A’s. Will we ever get any authenticity from this girl again? I fear not
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/5/2020, 2:45 am
@janebane99 wait girl she actually said that?!?! That’s INSANE!!!!! Dannggg like....Kenna can’t expect for everyone to like her content. That’s the beauty of how human emotions work. Our mind and interests are attracted to things that we find aesthetically pleasing and send us into this Cloud 9 dimension. And as a YT she needs to understand that she needs to create content that matches up to the viewer’s liking, it does not have to be 100 percent accurate but meets the criteria of the audience. She needs to satisfy the customer since she is getting paid by YT. She can still use her style in it but she has to provide the audience what they are looking for such as Q&As or Funny stories or Makeup stuff.
Plus I’m so curious on what happened with her and Gracie like did they have a fall out? I know Gracie doesn’t follow her anymore on Instagram and Kenna doesn’t either. So I don’t know what happened there. The same with Kaila as well. They appeared to have gotten along well when Kenna was in Japan. I don’t hear anything about Bree Kish or Dodie. It’s like they all went silent. It’s so strange.
Plus I’m so curious on what happened with her and Gracie like did they have a fall out? I know Gracie doesn’t follow her anymore on Instagram and Kenna doesn’t either. So I don’t know what happened there. The same with Kaila as well. They appeared to have gotten along well when Kenna was in Japan. I don’t hear anything about Bree Kish or Dodie. It’s like they all went silent. It’s so strange.
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/5/2020, 9:44 am
@fotxail GIRL I swear to Walt Disney Kenna straight up said on her IG story that she can’t keep uploading her YT videos with the views she’s getting, like no bitch no one wants to keep viewing your videos with the content we’re getting! It’s exactly like you said no one is getting that cloud 9 feeling from her anymore what a great way to put it! I used to feel so much more comfort, nostalgic and warm inside from her old videos before but now I can’t sit through them like before all I can think of is how too fake she is now and that she’ll never truly care about her fans and platform.
Ex friends:
AS for Grace and Bree they both got into serious relationships when Kenna moved to Japan, so when she moved back to Cali and no one was kissing her ass here like she expected them and probably no one wanted to go to Disneyland with her cus they were just busy or something and she started to openly post bitter and petty storys about how she can’t stand those kinda friends (obviously shading Bree and Grace) who chose to spend time with their significant other or partners over their friends and forget about them, trying to basically victimize herself that she’s not a priority to them anymore hahaha I’m pretty sure they both unfollowed her from that. that’s all I can remember about those two ex friends.
I don’t know too much about Dodie or her and Kenna’s previous friendship but she is a singer/musician who is still making songs and music videos so I doubt she’d want any further acquaintance with a majorly problematic girl like Kenna.
And lastly, poor sweet Kaila who traveled with Kenna to Europe, who is just an American model living full-time in Japan for years, was unfairly accused with no receipts of being an ableist when Kenna claimed Kai was verbally abusive to her in public “cussing her out everyday” about Kenna’s autistic traits she “has no control over.” Smells like bs to me I doubt Kaila is that type of irrational person to start cussing and shouting in her friends face surrounded by Europeans that probably speak English and could understand them or wanted to cause a scene or spectacle. What I think happened *speculation* is that Kenna was being a huge selfish brat during month long Europe trip (traveling overseas to different counties will be very tiresome and dreadful to most) and Kaila was stuck listening to this girls antics claiming it was because of her asd when she must’ve noticed and figured out that something else wrong with Kenna instead and not just the autism. But regardless I’m sure Kaila has remained pretty much silent throughout this whole entire time left very confused and in the dark about what actually happened between them but in my opinion good riddance for Kai I assume worse would’ve happened if that ship didn’t sink sooner!
Ex friends:
AS for Grace and Bree they both got into serious relationships when Kenna moved to Japan, so when she moved back to Cali and no one was kissing her ass here like she expected them and probably no one wanted to go to Disneyland with her cus they were just busy or something and she started to openly post bitter and petty storys about how she can’t stand those kinda friends (obviously shading Bree and Grace) who chose to spend time with their significant other or partners over their friends and forget about them, trying to basically victimize herself that she’s not a priority to them anymore hahaha I’m pretty sure they both unfollowed her from that. that’s all I can remember about those two ex friends.
I don’t know too much about Dodie or her and Kenna’s previous friendship but she is a singer/musician who is still making songs and music videos so I doubt she’d want any further acquaintance with a majorly problematic girl like Kenna.
And lastly, poor sweet Kaila who traveled with Kenna to Europe, who is just an American model living full-time in Japan for years, was unfairly accused with no receipts of being an ableist when Kenna claimed Kai was verbally abusive to her in public “cussing her out everyday” about Kenna’s autistic traits she “has no control over.” Smells like bs to me I doubt Kaila is that type of irrational person to start cussing and shouting in her friends face surrounded by Europeans that probably speak English and could understand them or wanted to cause a scene or spectacle. What I think happened *speculation* is that Kenna was being a huge selfish brat during month long Europe trip (traveling overseas to different counties will be very tiresome and dreadful to most) and Kaila was stuck listening to this girls antics claiming it was because of her asd when she must’ve noticed and figured out that something else wrong with Kenna instead and not just the autism. But regardless I’m sure Kaila has remained pretty much silent throughout this whole entire time left very confused and in the dark about what actually happened between them but in my opinion good riddance for Kai I assume worse would’ve happened if that ship didn’t sink sooner!
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/5/2020, 3:40 pm
@janebane99 WHAT THE FRICK FRACK PENNY WHACKA DOODLE BOMBARD DONALD DUCK?!??!?!? The audacity!!! 
that is INSANE!!! That's what happens in relationships, your significant other becomes the number one person in your life. It's the first step towards eternity. They can't just drop everything and go back to the old days like nothing happened. That's not how it works. Oh, my dear god, I feel like I have angina. This woman...I can't believe she's 25. 
I feel like Kaila saw right through her and knew something wasn't right. Usually when people call or accuse others being mean or doing horrible things are most likely guilty of doing it themselves. I feel Kenna has done more of the ableist stuff than anyone else. And in order to make herself feel better and not feel guilty, she insteads throws it onto someone else and claims that other people are saying horrible things. Kaila has every right to be silent (if she feels it is best) but I feel like in order for it all to stop. People have to stand up and start pointing it out like: "What other people say about Kenna is true" or "Kenna is not the kind of person you think she is." I feel so bad for all those iils who befriended Kenna, they don't deserve to be mistreated by her.
that is INSANE!!! That's what happens in relationships, your significant other becomes the number one person in your life. It's the first step towards eternity. They can't just drop everything and go back to the old days like nothing happened. That's not how it works. Oh, my dear god, I feel like I have angina. This woman...I can't believe she's 25. I feel like Kaila saw right through her and knew something wasn't right. Usually when people call or accuse others being mean or doing horrible things are most likely guilty of doing it themselves. I feel Kenna has done more of the ableist stuff than anyone else. And in order to make herself feel better and not feel guilty, she insteads throws it onto someone else and claims that other people are saying horrible things. Kaila has every right to be silent (if she feels it is best) but I feel like in order for it all to stop. People have to stand up and start pointing it out like: "What other people say about Kenna is true" or "Kenna is not the kind of person you think she is." I feel so bad for all those iils who befriended Kenna, they don't deserve to be mistreated by her.
janebane99 wrote:@fotxail GIRL I swear to Walt Disney Kenna straight up said on her IG story that she can’t keep uploading her YT videos with the views she’s getting, like no bitch no one wants to keep viewing your videos with the content we’re getting! It’s exactly like you said no one is getting that cloud 9 feeling from her anymore what a great way to put it! I used to feel so much more comfort, nostalgic and warm inside from her old videos before but now I can’t sit through them like before all I can think of is how too fake she is now and that she’ll never truly care about her fans and platform.
Ex friends:
AS for Grace and Bree they both got into serious relationships when Kenna moved to Japan, so when she moved back to Cali and no one was kissing her ass here like she expected them and probably no one wanted to go to Disneyland with her cus they were just busy or something and she started to openly post bitter and petty storys about how she can’t stand those kinda friends (obviously shading Bree and Grace) who chose to spend time with their significant other or partners over their friends and forget about them, trying to basically victimize herself that she’s not a priority to them anymore hahaha I’m pretty sure they both unfollowed her from that. that’s all I can remember about those two ex friends.
I don’t know too much about Dodie or her and Kenna’s previous friendship but she is a singer/musician who is still making songs and music videos so I doubt she’d want any further acquaintance with a majorly problematic girl like Kenna.
And lastly, poor sweet Kaila who traveled with Kenna to Europe, who is just an American model living full-time in Japan for years, was unfairly accused with no receipts of being an ableist when Kenna claimed Kai was verbally abusive to her in public “cussing her out everyday” about Kenna’s autistic traits she “has no control over.” Smells like bs to me I doubt Kaila is that type of irrational person to start cussing and shouting in her friends face surrounded by Europeans that probably speak English and could understand them or wanted to cause a scene or spectacle. What I think happened *speculation* is that Kenna was being a huge selfish brat during month long Europe trip (traveling overseas to different counties will be very tiresome and dreadful to most) and Kaila was stuck listening to this girls antics claiming it was because of her asd when she must’ve noticed and figured out that something else wrong with Kenna instead and not just the autism. But regardless I’m sure Kaila has remained pretty much silent throughout this whole entire time left very confused and in the dark about what actually happened between them but in my opinion good riddance for Kai I assume worse would’ve happened if that ship didn’t sink sooner!
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/7/2020, 6:59 pm
@foxtail I just hope that everyone continues to stop supporting her content until she really gets herself back on track with life.
I'd like to believe that most people don't enjoy hating others, but Kenna makes it difficult to not, at the very least, strongly dislike her.
Personally hoping that she'll better herself eventually, but we'll see how that goes.
I'd like to believe that most people don't enjoy hating others, but Kenna makes it difficult to not, at the very least, strongly dislike her.
Personally hoping that she'll better herself eventually, but we'll see how that goes.
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/7/2020, 8:03 pm
@nyaako I couldn’t have said it better myself! I honestly think that she should take a long hiatus off of social media and really find herself. I feel the same way, it’s like a double edge sword kind of thing when it comes to Kenna, there are people who don’t like her, and the same people don’t like the fact that they don’t like her. If she really learns how to get her act together and develops some humility and meekness, and not get mad when people point things out that she has done wrong, then I honestly think that people will actually start to take her seriously.
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/14/2020, 6:21 pm
Glad this forum is back up. @PrettySavage I am curious to see how her property owners are going to react to her "renovations" considering this video is an entire how now to get your security deposit back. Is anyone here going to by the Xmas collection out of curiosity?
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/18/2020, 3:19 pm
She dyed her hair brown now. It’s really pretty. But with her habits of photoshopping it’s hard to really admire it. I don’t know what do you guys think?
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/18/2020, 4:14 pm
Another new pfp as well. She shoops herself into a whole new person each time.
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/18/2020, 4:43 pm
If only that was really what her actual side profile looked like 
it never ceases to amaze me when I look at an old unedited photo of Kenna versus the ones she posts that are crazy heavy on the editing like girl come on be true to yourself already 
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/24/2020, 9:05 pm
This is one of the most bizarre pictures I have seen Kenna share by far.
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/29/2020, 1:19 am
Kenna did a "show me a photo of" IG story series today
- "you smiling":
- "favorite books":
- "you with an animal":
- "first photo in Japan":
- "favorite memory working at Disneyland":
- "stims/stim objects":
- "A photo with your best friend":
- "A page of new poetry":
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12/29/2020, 1:44 am
- "your outfit today":
- "October 15th":
- "you being the main character":
- "latest anime meme screenshot":
- "A selfie you can't explain":
- "Kenna as a child":
- "baby you":
- "you making a weird/funny face":
- "Japan food":
- "your favorite place":
- "you at your favorite place on earth":
- "your google search history":
- "a time you were struggling but nobody knew":
- "your pronouns":
- "your prom dress":
- "favorite sister":
- "you and dodie":
- "where we can see just how smol you are":
- "you doing contortion":
- "what do you mean ur an only child":
- "your sock drawer":
- "your comfort character":
- follow up to only child post:
- follow up to only child post 2:
- "your favorite videogame":
- "your favorite brother in law":
- "first photo on your camera roll":
- "fave tv show":
- "you as a meme":
- "fave scene from fave movie":
- "are you nonbinary or gender fluid?":
- "when you were the happiest":
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/29/2020, 11:31 am
If she was the happiest then why didn’t she just stay in Japan?? That makes no sense at all.
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/29/2020, 2:14 pm
@foxtail Because she's always known to contradict herself. And probably still doesn't want to admit Tokyo/Japan was a huge failure for her lol.
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/29/2020, 2:44 pm
@sillywaffles that Kenna is really something. Reality hit her hard 
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/29/2020, 2:48 pm
The projection is unreal
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
12/29/2020, 3:00 pm
@sailormewn I wonder if she has actually zero self awareness. But hey. Projection is a hell of a drug lmao. I can't wait to see her put her foot in her mouth again.
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
2/11/2021, 6:52 pm
@sillywaffles I wish I screenshotted it, but in a instastory QandA, more like a true or false, someone made an assumption (i saw it as testing the waters with the response) the person wrote that Autumn in Japan wasn't what she assumed it would be, which is why she was disappointed. And Kenna responded, that the assumption was "False" the way Japan celebrated Autumn was everything she expected it to be and that yaddie yaddie yada stuff. Which I find very ironic that she said the complete opposite of what she said before.
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
2/18/2021, 7:09 am
first post, new video. kenken bores us with a silent lets play and shows her favourite recipe
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
3/27/2021, 9:04 pm
hmmm i wonder why it is that she can't keep friends... what a mystery
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
4/30/2021, 9:28 pm
Has anyone noticed that Kenna is now into this pale blue aesthetic? I'm not quite sure I fully understand the switching of aesthetics and color palettes. First she was Dark Academia, then she was victorian, and now blue? Can someone please enlighten me?
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Re: Simply_Kenna/CozyKitsune
5/4/2021, 1:47 pm
I found old pictures of Kenna, from way back. This is when I started liking her. I feel like in order to really know what she was truly like before her “diagnosis of autism” If it is possible, Gracie should tell her side. As for now it remains sort of a mystery
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